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The Arts and Entertainment Work Group is a working group of members of the Biography WikiProject dedicated to ensuring quality and coverage of biography articles.

Biography (arts and entertainment) articles by quality and importance
Quality Importance
Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total
FA 8 17 40 81 146
FL 3 3 6
A 1 1 1 3
GA 10 37 83 403 67 600
B 50 147 401 1,199 2,864 4,661
C 19 167 755 6,810 2 15,222 22,975
Start 4 95 1,173 24,640 12 57,538 83,462
Stub 1 17 381 31,659 7 45,610 77,675
List 4 4 169 1 165 343
Category 7 11,822 11,829
Disambig 1 29 30
File 355 355
Project 7 7
Redirect 414 1,480 1,894
Template 1 2 869 872
NA 15 15 30
Other 1 26 60 87
Assessed 92 486 2,842 65,430 14,659 121,466 204,975
Unassessed 2 95 1,083 1,180
Total 92 486 2,844 65,525 14,659 122,549 206,155
WikiWork factors (?) ω = 990,057 Ω = 5.23


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  • Pierce O'Donnell — California's 22nd congressional district candidate[1] Los Angeles lawyer Buchwald v. Paramount screenwriter [2] author ISBN 1-56584-958-2 ISBN 0-385-41686-5 [3] California Fair Political Practices Commission[4][5][6][7]
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The general outline and collection has been started, but if you would like to expand and organize a discipline, here's what you do. Right below the page heading for the discipline insert this: {{subst:Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Work groups/Division banner}} and save. This will put a rough outline together for you and then you can edit it to conform to your area. See Writers and critics below for an example. If your project grows large enough where it's taking up a good portion of this page, you should probably move it to a subpage of this page.

You might also want to make a Members section for people to join your specific area!

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Any article related to this work group should be marked by adding |a&e-work-group=yes to the {{WPBiography}} project banner at the top of its talk page. This will automatically place it into Category:Arts and entertainment work group articles. Articles can be assessed for priority within this work group by using the |a&e-priority= parameter. See Template:WikiProject Biography/doc for detailed instructions on how to use the banner.

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  1. I am ready to work on the biography articles of Indian or Biography actors Jogesh 69 (talk) 15:00, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  2. come help with the Bronwen Mantel article Smith Jones 22:16, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Lovelaughterlife (talk · contribs) Worked extensively on some biographies; reverted vandalism some others
  4. Francoisalex2 (talk · contribs)
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  7. Truth in Comedy (talk · contribs)
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  9. DENAMAX (talk · contribs) Maxim Stoyalov
  10. Ozgod (talk · contribs)
  11. Eremeyv (talk · contribs)
  12. Susanlesch (talk · contribs), mostly inactive
  13. EraserGirl (talk) 03:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Shruti14 (talk · contribs) will help when I can
  15. Jubileeclipman (talk · contribs) I am interested in taking on UK celebrities with articles that are stubs or otherwise non-standard. Entirely rewrote Fearne Cotton to raise standard and remove fansite tag. I am working on Holly Willoughby which was merely a list plus trivia. Will also work on musicians, all genre, living or dead.
  16. Jarhed (talk · contribs) 21:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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  27. Terasaface (talk) 03:31, 17 January 2020 (UTC) Working on BLP of artists primarily working in the fields of Studio craft[reply]
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  29. Yorubaja (talk · contribs) 14:23:20, 18 January 2021 (UTC) [reply]
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Menotti Lerro

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Menotti Lerro (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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All right, I'll bite, this article is probably not notable. The refbombing makes it really hard to assess the quality of the sources, but even then, it seems most coverage is either WP:ROUTINE or about the movement he founded, empathism. Allan Nonymous (talk) 12:50, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the previous deletion discussion (here [8]) is informative as per source quality. I would additionally suggest salting. Allan Nonymous (talk) 13:28, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Many of the sources are local, and many are written by followers/adherents/members of his so-called "cultural movement", Empathism, who have signed his "manifesto", therefore are not independent.
Netherzone (talk) 16:14, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Visual representations of Turing machines

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Visual representations of Turing machines (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails GNG. The article is currently an amalgamation of primary sources and non-notable pictures. The only secondary sources are those that discuss Turing himself; this material is already discussed in the main Turing machine article, which also contains pictures of physical implementations. The primary sources are not important enough to merge into the main article. My PROD was previously removed. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 19:53, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Elvio Annese

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Elvio Annese (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Another article on a non-notable artist and professor from a "walled garden"-type series of articles promoting the "members" of Menotti Lerro's "movement/manifesto", Empathism and his New Manifesto of Arts. The subject of this article does not meet WP:GNG, all the sources are primary/connected except the Milano Today source that simple name-checks him in a mention. As an academic, he fails WP:NACADEMIC as he has a h-index of zero on Google Scholar and Scopus, and all I could find was an article written by Lerro about his own (Lerro's) so-called Empathic movement. I beleive this is WP:PROMO and should be deleted. Bringing it here for the community to decide. Netherzone (talk) 01:33, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Angelo Casciello

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Angelo Casciello (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article on an Italian artist is part of a sort-of "walled garden" of articles on artists and academics affiliated with Menotti Lerro's so-called movement, Empathism and who signed his manifesto. The subject of the article does not meet WP:GNG as the sources are all primary sources except, perhaps one, however that may be a press release. Fails WP:NARTIST. The article claims he was in the Venice Bienale 3 times, altho this could not be verified by the Venice Bienale itself [9]], so perhaps he was in one of the satellite shows but not represented in the actual Bienale. As an academic he fails WP:NACADEMIC, as there is an h-index score of zero on Google Scholar and Scopus I found a few things he wrote, but they were not cited by others. Bringing it here for the community to decide. Netherzone (talk) 01:25, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete — per nom. Empathism spam, no real evidence of notability. — Biruitorul Talk 10:54, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Changing vote to Delete, per nomination. This does look like a cookie-cutter article springing from Empathism. Leaving that aside, I see him in ALK online, and two exhibitions. I cannnot, however, find RS for the claim that he was at the Venice Biennale three times, unless the source given https://www.accademiavirtuosi.it/accademici/biovirtuoso.php?id=20 is to be trusted. Perhaps I am searching the internet incorrectly, but I thought the Biennale was documented well by the Biennale. He has been quoted in the volume by Vittorio Sgarbi (edited by), La scultura del Novecento in Italia, in Enciclopedia Universale dell'Arte (Mondadori: 1990); in Gillo Dorfles, Ultime tendenze nell'arte oggi (Feltrinelli: 1999) and in Vittorio Sgarbi (edited by), Lo Stato dell’Arte / Campania 54 Biennale di Venezia (Skira publishing: 2011). is just a weird claim sentence. WP:CIR. Not sure what to do about this one.--WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dayfree Press

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Dayfree Press (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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While (some of) the webcomics that were part of Dayfree Press are notable, DP itself doesn't appear to have received significant coverage in reliable sources. There's this article in the The Comics Grid journal, which brings it up on p. 4 and 9 (and which could be considered sigcov, I guess). And there's also a Wired.com blog that says ~80 words about Dayfree Press. But I wasn't able to find more. toweli (talk) 08:42, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dumbrella

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Dumbrella (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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While the webcomics that are part of the alliance are notable, the alliance itself doesn't appear to have received significant coverage in reliable sources; I was only able to find mentions. The article was previously kept at an AfD (well, VfD), but that was back in 2004 when standards were very different. toweli (talk) 10:47, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Engschrift

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Engschrift (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Initially PRODed by me, for the following reason:

In addition to the existing relying on a single source and vagueness issues (likely due to translation), the information in the article could easily be included onto the existing articles – DIN 1451, Austria (typeface), Tern (typeface) and Road signs in Austria – with the provision of sources, weakening the article's basis.

Deletion was objected, a merged was proposed instead. However, it is not possible to redirect one article to 3 others. Created a topic at WikiProject Typography over 4 months ago with no response. The article has no notability on its own, and is poorly written/explained. EthanL13 | talk 22:06, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Already PROD'd so not eligible for Soft Deletion,
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it is in this case, as the article makes clear. The term should lead the reader somewhere. Do you have more general redirect targets in mind? --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 06:47, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the article is much to go by – it can't even stick to its own subject in the lead. If it were possible, a disambiguation page (with DIN 1451 as its primary article) would be ideal, with links to Austria (typeface), Tern (typeface) and FE-Schrift. Just an idea, not sure if it's possible. EthanL13 | talk 09:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe a disambiguation would be the way to go, given the several different types where the term is accepted as a variant, and the fact that it also represents the original German term for shorthand [10]. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 10:05, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: We now have several closure suggestions including Delete, Merge and Redirect with different target articles mentioned.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:13, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Art of Sound (exhibition)

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The Art of Sound (exhibition) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lack of notability Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 14:08, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: further expansion of the article and context was needed. AlphaLemur (talk) 01:28, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Previously PROD'd so not eligible for Soft Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:24, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:19, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Arts and Entertainment Work Group - Writers and critics

The Arts and Entertainment Work Group - Writers and critics is a working group of members of the Biography WikiProject dedicated to ensuring quality and coverage of biography articles.

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Tracey Collins

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Tracey Collins (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is a low-profile individual who is not notable. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED from her famous boyfriend. "de facto first lady of NYC" is not a factoid that confers notability. The NYT piece cited is a brief mention of her, and the WP:NYPOST source is unreliable for U.S. politics. WP:BEFORE produced only this in addition. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:02, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Steven Ujifusa

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Tried draftfying this, and it was more or less immediately put back in mainspace. Tried find independent, and I couldn't find any. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 19:09, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. The article is not written in correct format, and the author is clearly the subject (check username).
TheMotto (talk) 19:18, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Menotti Lerro

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All right, I'll bite, this article is probably not notable. The refbombing makes it really hard to assess the quality of the sources, but even then, it seems most coverage is either WP:ROUTINE or about the movement he founded, empathism. Allan Nonymous (talk) 12:50, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the previous deletion discussion (here [11]) is informative as per source quality. I would additionally suggest salting. Allan Nonymous (talk) 13:28, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Many of the sources are local, and many are written by followers/adherents/members of his so-called "cultural movement", Empathism, who have signed his "manifesto", therefore are not independent.
Netherzone (talk) 16:14, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brock Frost

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Semi-advertorialized rticle about a city councillor, not properly referenced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NPOL #2. As always, city councillors are not automatically notable enough for Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to show evidence that they should be seen as special cases of significantly more nationalized notability than the norm -- but this is showing nothing of the sort, and instead is trending in the direction of trying to promote his post-council business as a mortgage agent, and is referenced entirely to the type of run of the mill local coverage that's merely expected to always exist for all city councillors in their local media, except for a single brief glancing namecheck of his existence in a national newspaper article about somebody else, which isn't support for notability and doesn't even support the sentence it's footnoting anyway.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have a lot more sourcing and substance than this. Bearcat (talk) 06:52, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Boross

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Doesn't meet WP:CREATIVE with only minor roles in various TV and music. I can't find any sources getting close to discussing him. This is just the latest iteration in attempts to promote him as a speaker going back to 2014 (I've already removed that). SmartSE (talk) 08:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gareth Ward (author)

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Fails WP:GNG, couldn't find much else online. GMH Melbourne (talk) 08:53, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep the two press sources in the article seem pretty good. There's also this, this, this, all from a quick and non extensive search. His books have several reviews on Gale and Proquest which help him pass WP:NAUTHOR/ Also many interviews with RS. A pretty decent article could be written here, IMO PARAKANYAA (talk) 12:48, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Laura M. Brotherson

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lacks notability. ―Howard • 🌽33 21:48, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Peter J. Levesque

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No indication of significance. References are PR, profiles, appointment news and non-salient coverage. Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:BIO. UPE. scope_creepTalk 22:01, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Mangham

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Part of a walled garden revolving around “empathism”. No credible evidence of notability. Conveniently, Mangham is cited in the article on Menotti Lerro, the guru of empathism, calling him “one of the most interesting poets in modern-day Europe”. Of course, this opinion just happens to appear in the introduction to a volume of poetry by Lerro, who just happens to be friends with Mangham. See how these things work? Biruitorul Talk 11:03, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ajit George

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This biographical article does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FactCheckAdam (talk • contribs) 09:14, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Fixed formatting to follow WP:AFDHOWTO. Sariel Xilo (talk) 16:53, 25 September 2024 (UTC); notified article creators along with WikiProjects (WikiProject Dungeons & Dragons & WikiProject Role-playing games). Sariel Xilo (talk) 17:10, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Slava Smelovsky

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WP:BLP with zero real coverage. Refs are profiles, other work and oddments. Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:BIO. No indication of significance. scope_creepTalk 17:50, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jens Hammer

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Non-notable "author" (blogger). Feels self-promotional. Lacks WP:RS, fails WP:GNG, WP:AUTHOR. Cabrils (talk) 02:20, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete promotional article of a non-notable figure Traumnovelle (talk) 02:25, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Margaret Pargeter

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Margaret Pargeter (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Completely unreferenced article about the pseudonym of a writer of romance novels. As always, writers are not "inherently" notable just because their work exists, and have to show evidence of passing WP:GNG on third-party coverage and analysis about their work -- biographical information, reviews of their books by professional literary critics, evidence of noteworthy literary awards, etc. -- but this cites no GNG-worthy sourcing at all, and in fact the closest thing to a "reference" in it (until I stripped it just now) was the self-published directory profile of a non-pseudonymous writer who wasn't claiming herself to be the author of any of these books, and thus appears to have been a "publicize her by piggybacking onto an unrelated article" stunt (or possibly, but not verifiably, insider info) rather than evidence of the notability of "Margaret Pargeter".
Nothing here is "inherently" notable without proper GNG-compliant sourcing for it. Bearcat (talk) 17:11, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marius Chelaru (writer)

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Marius Chelaru (writer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No particular indication of notability here. The subject has participated in some random conferences, which hardly makes him encyclopedically notable.

As a side note, someone should look more closely at the article creator and his activity. He seems deeply involved with an obscure movement called Empathism (do check out that article, though fair warning: your eyes may hurt), and has been creating stubs about even more obscure figures associated with this supposed literary current.

Anyway, to return to Chelaru: nothing about his record, and certainly not the mediocre sources, suggests that he should have an article here. Thus, delete. Biruitorul Talk 15:35, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I tagged the "empathism" article for clean-up, it's too wordy and over-quoted for what it's trying to day. Oaktree b (talk) 15:58, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete it falls dangerously below WP:GNG and all other known notability guidelines. Even his listed works do not mention him and the works do not have tittles, where they were published and their identifiers such as ISBN, ISSN. Piscili (talk) 16:00, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - this article on a non-notable writer fails WP:GNG and WP:NAUTHOR. This article is one of a series of promotional articles (a walled garden of sorts) surrounding the so-called Empathism "movement" and the poet Menotti Lerro (who "invented" Empathism and wrote it's manifesto), and the "award" given to the people who adhere to Empathism. Other articles of questionable notability are the other "members" as well as Lerro's Cilento International Poetry Prize and others that I do not have the time at the moment to add. Two SPA's are creating numerous articles that all connect back to Lerro (hence the "walled garden"), whose article on Italian Wikipedia has been deleted for lack of notability. The whole group of articles are WP:PROMO. Netherzone (talk) 01:41, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brad Farmer

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There has been a lot of IP nonsense in the history of this article, so while I agree with the IP's PROD, I think this merits an AFD. Farmer has been cited, but since OA isn't sufficient I don't see WP:BIO level coverage Star Mississippi 21:06, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tom_Whalen

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notability; apparent self-promotion LoveGermanLit (talk) 18:25, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Subject is notable and worthy for expansion Tesleemah Talk 07:31, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Guy Finley

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There is no significant coverage of Guy Finley, his work or his teachings in reliable secondary sources. Most of it is blog posts and primary sources. A 2007 discussion ended with a Keep result, but the votes all relied on notability determined by Google hits, a Google featured link and Amazon sales rankings. These are outdated standards. Ynsfial (talk) 17:48, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

!vote I think most musicians deserve a chance Natlaur (talk) 23:16, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ihor Kulakov

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Fails WP:NBIO. Most (if not all) of sources are self-published sources. GTrang (talk) 04:09, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot see self-publishing sources. If you can see it, you may delete them. Not article at all. Thank you. Abcrad (talk) 05:12, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sam Forster

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This is a vanity article for a little-known freelance writer. His only claim to fame is drawing widespread mockery and condemnation for his book about wearing blackface across the United States. Much more notable Canadian journalists do not have Wikipedia pages, and the achievements listed are negligible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TrashPandaMan (talk • contribs)

Keep - The critique overlooks the broader context of Sam Forster's contributions to the public discourse. While it's true that not every writer or journalist gains widespread recognition overnight, dismissing someone's work solely based on their level of fame or controversial moments is short-sighted. Forster’s book, which has indeed sparked debate, addresses sensitive and complex issues, and the ensuing reactions—both positive and negative—demonstrate that his work has provoked meaningful conversations.

It's essential to recognize that public figures who challenge societal norms often face harsh criticism, but that doesn't diminish the value of their contributions. Many notable figures throughout history were initially met with ridicule before their work was acknowledged as significant. Forster's willingness to tackle uncomfortable topics is an important part of his role as a writer. Furthermore, Wikipedia is a platform that reflects public interest, and Forster's coverage there simply mirrors the fact that his work, controversial or not, has sparked significant public attention.

Additionally, comparing Forster to other Canadian journalists based on fame is a false equivalence. The presence or absence of a Wikipedia page is not a measure of a person’s accomplishments, nor does it negate the relevance of their work. It's important to focus on the substance of what a writer has contributed to discussions, rather than focusing on how well-known they are or how their work has been received in certain circles.

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This approach emphasizes the importance of intellectual discourse, the value of confronting complex societal issues, and challenges the assumptions about fame equating to worth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daves598 (talk • contribs) 01:15, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Abdullah Hashem

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BLP of the founder of a religious sect. The sect itself appears to be notable but it does not seem that the leader himself is. I think a redirect to Ahmadi Religion of Peace and Light would probably be best. Mccapra (talk) 22:12, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Google searches easily turn up hundreds of high-profile mentions. There are articles from Amnesty International, the UN, and various governments, and dozens of major newspapers that all mention him. Easily meets WP:BIO and WP:SIGCOV criteria. For sects with that many media mentions, their founders and leaders would usually also be notable enough. There is also plenty of information about Hashem that would fit well into a standalone article. DjembeDrums (talk) 17:46, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ok which three of these do you think provide the best in-depth coverage? Mccapra (talk) 21:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Article only cited one source almost which shows they still need to meet WP:GNG to stand alone Tesleemah (talk) 20:10, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Judith Mok

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Tagged for sourcing issues since 2006. Not clear the subject meets WP:GNG. 4meter4 (talk) 00:13, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep Finding sources was really easy for this person, they have multiple books with multiple reviews, and numerous interviews. I removed a lot of the material that I couldn't find sources for other than her website and CV. Dr vulpes (Talk) 03:57, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After rereading that I wanted to clarify that I'm not being snippy with @4meter4 I'm just so used to having to do deep dives into archives at AfD that this was a welcome change of pace. Dr vulpes (Talk) 04:09, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jason Emer

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1. It was moved from draft space to article space before it was reviewed and made live by the creator of the page

2. It was moved to draft space by other editors due to promotional tone, it seemed as it was written by someone closely connected to the subject

3. It was proposed for deletion and the final decision was to keep. However, the keep voters: 1 was a new account created just for this debate only (seems like it and it was an open IP, one was an editor banned for sock-puppetry)

4. There is someone constantly removing a section that is a bit negative about the subject

All this makes me believe that this page is being managed by someone closely connected to the subject. Additionally, i don't believe the subject is notable and most of the references are PRs and he is constantly self-promoting on the internet. WikiProCreate (talk) 13:49, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Siue Moffat

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WP:BLP of a cookbook author and filmmaker, not reliably sourced as having a strong claim to passing notability criteria for either occupation. As always, people are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to show evidence of WP:GNG-worthy coverage about them in media independent of themselves -- but the only notability claim on offer here is that her work exists, and the article is referenced to one (deadlinked but recoverable) short blurb that isn't enough to get her over GNG all by itself if it's all she's got for GNG-worthy coverage, and one primary source that isn't support for notability at all.
The article, further, has been tagged for needing more sources since 2011 without ever having better sources added, and a WP:BEFORE search came up dry as all I found in ProQuest was the blurb and a small handful of glancing namechecks of her existence in coverage of events.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to have more and better referencing than this. Bearcat (talk) 18:01, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can see three reviews for "Lickin' the Beaters 2: Vegan Chocolate and Candy" via Proquest, but not much else. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 07:15, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yes a lot of reviews/mentions are before the internet existed as we know it. Broken Pencil reviewed all the zines, even some not listed on the wiki page. I've just found a Fascinating Folks from Broken Pencil (hopefully I'm doing this correctly, first time in one of these discussions... Maulydaft (talk) 13:48, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Brown (writer)

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Writer fails WP:NBIO. Article has been tagged for notability since November 2022. GTrang (talk) 05:05, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Article is here to stay with their notable accomplishment per WP:GNG! Tesleemah (talk) ] 20:19, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. None of the sources provide IRS SIGCOV -- the Stuff.nz announcement of his being named the National Library's Reading Ambassador comes the closest but is largely quotes/statements from an interview and anyway does not satisfy SUSTAINED, BLP1E, or MULTI. And of course being appointed to a non-notable position by a governmental program is nowhere close to meeting ANYBIO -- we don't even presume notability for ambassadors to foreign countries, why would it be different for ambassadorship of purely domestic programs? Niche awards by newspapers also don't cut it, even when the newspapers are national.
However, I did find a review of one of his collections, so I suppose it's likely he meets NAUTHOR. JoelleJay (talk) 23:42, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alan Shefsky

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Subject does not meet notability criteria per WP:GNG or WP:BIO. Sources provided are mainly primary, and the ones that aren't are (1) an obituary, (2) Find a Grave, (3) an article about an exhibition of his letters to a pen pal, (4) a couple of notices about a tribute by one of his students. None of the sources are about him in any significant way. ... discospinster talk 01:06, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I should've submitted for review. There are three newspaper articles concerning his work or renditions of it, two concerning performances of his poems by Northwestern, and another about an exhibit of his work after his death. Though I can easily link others. He seems to be congruent with a notable academic or creative figure. Hypnosef (talk) 01:23, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I added further sources, let me know if more is still required Hypnosef (talk) 01:59, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would respectfully disagree that none of the sources pertain to him in any significant way.
  1. Source #5 fourteeneastmag.com details "the touring exhibition Poet to Poet: Living Letters, a 13-year correspondence between poet Abe Louise Young and poet Alan Shefsky. Their friendship was preserved in loose leaf papers of written word before Shefsky died from a brain tumor." The source explicitly pertains to his being a poet and his dying of a brain tumor. 2. #6 chicago tribune, details the two's friendship, their long correspondence, and his death from cancer. 3. prizer arts and letters, states that this touring exhibition travelled to Austin, Texas. 4. Sources 8&9 are his poems published in a well-known literary journal. The find a grave and obit were simply to establish birth and death years as they were less readily available than other information. I have also added ten different publications that thank Shefsky by name, though many more exist. These should be sufficient to establish his lasting impact in the academic community. He was a very well-known figure at Northwestern for years.
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Does anyone have any other input? Hypnosef (talk) 22:34, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks Liz! Not sure how to get more opinions in here, but I'll acquiesce to whatever the group decision is. However, I'm certainly of the opinion that the topic is worthy of an article. He was a local poet of decent renown that I read a lot in my teenage years. Hypnosef (talk) 22:53, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sebastian Cluer

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There doesn't appear to be significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. None of the links in the article help establish notability. toweli (talk) 09:04, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a subjective opinion coming from a lack of awareness of Canada's television entertainment scene. Sebastian Cluer is one of the most well known and in-demand directors in his country, having directed, produced and developed many notable shows that have had massive success both in his home country and abroad. Lots of them are on airlines, including Still Standing, Bollywed, Property Brothers...and the list goes on. These along with receiving many nominations and wins, particularly with The Canadian Screen Awards, which are the country's equivalent to the Oscars and Golden Globes combined.
Sebastian was also instrumental in the success of the hugely popular and successful show Kenny vs. Spenny and has been appearing in commentaries alongside Kenny Hotz as of late.
IMDB Sebastian Cluer for further validation Cliuthar (talk) 15:06, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine, but we need sources about him. Simply being named in a list of nominees isn't enough for notability here. Oaktree b (talk) 23:01, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Article does need improvement, but there are far too many Gemini Award and Canadian Screen Award nominations and victories listed here to deem him "non-notable" at all. That's top-level national awards, equivalent to Emmys and Oscars, which is a notability lock even if the sourcing still needs improvement, and the sourcing for that kind of stuff most certainly can be improved. Bearcat (talk) 17:27, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    But there isn't any sourcing to be found. I agree he's notable, but having a permastub for lack of sourcing isn't what we look for. Oaktree b (talk) 23:02, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "Is notable" and "delete" cannot coexist. Gemini Awards and Canadian Screen Awards are an inherent notability lock, meaning that every person with those awards on their mantle must be allowed to have a Wikipedia article. I'll grant that not everybody named in our Genie, Gemini and CSA articles already has an article yet, but everybody named in any of them must be allowed to have an article as soon as somebody gets around to it, and there can be no exceptions to that: it's a top-level national award that nails inherent notability to the wall right on its face per WP:ANYBIO's "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times", which means it's inherently notable enough that it locks notability down even if the sourcing is inadequate. The only legitimate grounds for deleting a Gemini/Genie/CSA winner would be if sourceability were completely nonexistent (e.g. a person whose article falsely claimed a nomination or win that they didn't really have). Bearcat (talk) 17:08, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Nominations suggest notability, but there just isn't enough coverage about him. I had to dig to even bring this up [25]. An interview that doesn't quite help notability. Delete for lack of sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 23:00, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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S. J. Dahlstrom

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Not notable writer, doesn't pass WP ANYbio and other guidelines. J. P. Fridrich (talk) 07:34, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shwan Attoof

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Doesn't meet WP:ACTOR, as there were few or no sources showing notability. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:25, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shwan is well known film actor/director in Kurdistan/Iraq, the article could be stay. I added serval new references. Kushared (talk) 06:23, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Which references? Those aren't reliable per WP:RS. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 Comment: The article has changed, with additional references that doesn't meet WP:RS. PUKmedia is unreliable as well as Kurdistanin, which is a blog. The Rudaw source doesn't show anything if not 'not found' (a bare link). The golden globes citation is a narration of a film with zero reference to the director or casts. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:20, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Christiane Wolf

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She's evidently done commendable work, such as the VA program, but I can't find significant coverage of her, or reviews of her books in reliable sources, to meet WP:NAUTHOR, WP:BIO or WP:GNG. She's also worked with some notable people, but on Wikipedia notability is not inherited. Wikishovel (talk) 18:14, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Steve Tappin

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The subject appears to be a non-notable individual, lacking significant coverage in reliable sources that establish notability. Most of the sources cited in the article and on the talk page are passing mentions, interviews, primary, routine coverage, or hearsay, none of which provide in-depth coverage. The article fails to meet WP:GNG, WP:NBIO, and WP:NAUTHOR. Additionally, off-wiki evidence suggests potential undisclosed paid editing and sockpuppetry. GSS 💬 13:55, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In addition WP:BASIC states that “If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability;” Tappin has over 40 articles online as you can also see some posted in the tal page. Also the following article is in depth:
Finally, as per WP:ENT he would qualify because he was the host of BBC TV show CEO GURU for a long time - over two years - and has been on at least 30 episodes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fuzzsoth (talk • contribs) 23:18, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep the book reviews above and ones I found seem good for him to pass WP:NAUTHOR. Some of the other stuff looks promising but I haven't evaluated that as much. I found some more sources on ProQuest.
hysterically, one of the sources accuses him of having his wikipedia entry edited. We have come full circle PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:13, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, PARAKANYAA, which one is that? Liz Read! Talk! 06:42, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz It's from the Evening Standard (admittedly a British tabloid, so take with a grain of salt, but I think it's funny), 24 October 2012:
"STEVE Tappin -- an erstwhile headhunter and one-time author who now styles himself as a "CEO coach", was caught out three years ago by a City blog which wondered if he had sexed up his Wikipedia entry.
The collaboratively-edited online encyclopedia then stated that Tappin was a mentor to some of the top names in British business including Sir Terry Leahy and Andy Haste -- then bosses of Tesco and RSA, respectively -- only for the companies to quickly distance themselves from Tappin's claims. The entry was subsequently toned down." Then it goes on to say something about the book and his Twitter. PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:45, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. They are probably referring to the editor Fuzzsoth who commented here and on the article talk page and on several user talk pages. I see so many articles like this about "consultants", I'm surprised to see the support for this one but the consensus is, what it is. Liz Read! Talk! 00:18, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep subject meets WP:NAUTHOR based on presented sources and meets WP:ENT as a host of past TV show on BBC.Mysecretgarden (talk) 23:34, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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